1 00:00:04,370 --> 00:00:02,929 hi nice to be among you all it's 2 00:00:06,769 --> 00:00:04,380 interesting that so many of you I've 3 00:00:09,910 --> 00:00:06,779 already dealt with this topic in your 4 00:00:12,650 --> 00:00:09,920 own ways and I'm going to take a 5 00:00:15,169 --> 00:00:12,660 slightly different approach to the 6 00:00:17,650 --> 00:00:15,179 bureaucratic mind relating into the 7 00:00:22,099 --> 00:00:17,660 potential effects negative effects on 8 00:00:23,779 --> 00:00:22,109 physiologic health and so our Institute 9 00:00:25,490 --> 00:00:23,789 the Institute for therapeutic discovery 10 00:00:27,500 --> 00:00:25,500 we're in Richmond Virginia plus Albany 11 00:00:29,150 --> 00:00:27,510 New York with John McMichael we're 12 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:29,160 interested in such things as energy 13 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:31,410 medicine the Bankston healing project 14 00:00:36,560 --> 00:00:35,130 and the placebo response now when we're 15 00:00:38,500 --> 00:00:36,570 talking about the bureaucratic mind 16 00:00:43,670 --> 00:00:38,510 we're talking about pervasive 17 00:00:46,250 --> 00:00:43,680 connections throughout daily life it is 18 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:46,260 defined here as a dynamic speaking to 19 00:00:53,260 --> 00:00:48,320 allow the organized perception and 20 00:00:55,850 --> 00:00:53,270 subsequently behave and so if we try to 21 00:00:58,220 --> 00:00:55,860 its characterized by status quo of 22 00:01:02,689 --> 00:00:58,230 stereotypical points of view condensed 23 00:01:04,189 --> 00:01:02,699 the thinking it's hard to get a metric 24 00:01:06,590 --> 00:01:04,199 on this or like even if it's a 25 00:01:08,810 --> 00:01:06,600 questionnaire because by designing that 26 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:08,820 questionnaire by posing those problems 27 00:01:13,609 --> 00:01:11,130 of with a profile you're seeking to 28 00:01:15,620 --> 00:01:13,619 elicit you're actually defining the 29 00:01:17,929 --> 00:01:15,630 bureaucratic mind and so you're 30 00:01:27,050 --> 00:01:17,939 producing a bureaucratic situation and 31 00:01:29,749 --> 00:01:27,060 so you've obviously made about education 32 00:01:34,609 --> 00:01:29,759 and education of all kinds and it's 33 00:01:36,140 --> 00:01:34,619 upheld by authority of all kinds and so 34 00:01:39,830 --> 00:01:36,150 we'll get into the universal fallacies 35 00:01:41,390 --> 00:01:39,840 of logic in just a little bit so the 36 00:01:44,179 --> 00:01:41,400 characteristics of maintenance of a 37 00:01:46,190 --> 00:01:44,189 prefabricated mindset for the sole 38 00:01:49,010 --> 00:01:46,200 purpose of maintaining that specific 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:49,020 mindset so it's rather in sexual 40 00:01:53,719 --> 00:01:51,450 incestuous in that regard and it 41 00:01:58,310 --> 00:01:53,729 excludes categorical thinking and 42 00:02:00,889 --> 00:01:58,320 categorical behavior and those branch 43 00:02:03,859 --> 00:02:00,899 all disciplines for example in politics 44 00:02:04,550 --> 00:02:03,869 global warming does not occur that's one 45 00:02:07,219 --> 00:02:04,560 example 46 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:07,229 and philosophy of material based world 47 00:02:13,790 --> 00:02:10,050 is projected on to materialism 48 00:02:16,699 --> 00:02:13,800 definition of the philosophy in science 49 00:02:18,890 --> 00:02:16,709 the findings of science aren't used 50 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:18,900 they're used to form a bureaucratic 51 00:02:26,570 --> 00:02:22,050 mindset rather than to advance science 52 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:26,580 itself as a methodology of learning and 53 00:02:31,940 --> 00:02:29,010 in the corporate the free-market rules 54 00:02:33,259 --> 00:02:31,950 and in religion evolution does not occur 55 00:02:35,650 --> 00:02:33,269 and in fairness 56 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:35,660 one might say another bureaucratic 57 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:37,890 consideration would be saying that 58 00:02:43,550 --> 00:02:40,560 intelligent design is a bunch of hogwash 59 00:02:45,050 --> 00:02:43,560 so there's a flip and one could make the 60 00:02:47,180 --> 00:02:45,060 point that each and every one of these 61 00:02:49,400 --> 00:02:47,190 characteristics is political by nature 62 00:02:51,289 --> 00:02:49,410 because it involves humans coming 63 00:02:54,050 --> 00:02:51,299 together and struggling among themselves 64 00:02:56,589 --> 00:02:54,060 to see which point of view will arrive 65 00:02:59,900 --> 00:02:56,599 at a consensual agreement and that 66 00:03:01,460 --> 00:02:59,910 consensus is a hallmark of what we're 67 00:03:05,199 --> 00:03:01,470 dealing with here today as the 68 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:05,209 bureaucratic mind now it has benefits 69 00:03:11,449 --> 00:03:08,010 societies institutions organizations are 70 00:03:12,890 --> 00:03:11,459 built on bureaucracy so I'm not trying 71 00:03:14,180 --> 00:03:12,900 to throw anything out the window here 72 00:03:17,090 --> 00:03:14,190 I'm just trying to gain an understanding 73 00:03:20,330 --> 00:03:17,100 and appreciation of the entire dynamic 74 00:03:23,809 --> 00:03:20,340 and so you have order purpose and 75 00:03:26,990 --> 00:03:23,819 meaning a worldview provides a world to 76 00:03:29,479 --> 00:03:27,000 view and then they give you a nation of 77 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:29,489 laws that prevent anarchy and chaos 78 00:03:35,330 --> 00:03:32,250 there's no Mad Max scenario if you have 79 00:03:37,099 --> 00:03:35,340 a coherent society it gives you certain 80 00:03:39,349 --> 00:03:37,109 standards so no matter where in the 81 00:03:40,729 --> 00:03:39,359 world that you buy a music CD you're 82 00:03:44,990 --> 00:03:40,739 going to be able to go home and play 83 00:03:46,069 --> 00:03:45,000 that music CD and whatever technology 84 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:46,079 you have at home 85 00:03:50,660 --> 00:03:48,930 the airline safety regulations and if 86 00:03:53,390 --> 00:03:50,670 you're on the road and you let's just 87 00:03:54,979 --> 00:03:53,400 say your favorite restaurant of your 88 00:03:56,809 --> 00:03:54,989 favorite restaurants at home is Ruby 89 00:03:58,910 --> 00:03:56,819 Tuesday's and you're 90 00:04:01,099 --> 00:03:58,920 3,000 miles away and there's a Ruby 91 00:04:03,500 --> 00:04:01,109 Tuesday the odds are you're going to get 92 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:03,510 a meal that you can pretty much enjoy 93 00:04:05,420 --> 00:04:04,050 because 94 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:05,430 going to be comparable to the one at 95 00:04:10,220 --> 00:04:07,770 home so bureaucracy gives us all those 96 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:10,230 things it gives us the logistics to hold 97 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:13,290 a conference both on a general level and 98 00:04:18,530 --> 00:04:15,930 for the individual getting here the 99 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:18,540 drawbacks philosophical conditioning 100 00:04:23,900 --> 00:04:20,730 thinking is held as the final reality 101 00:04:26,810 --> 00:04:23,910 and so you're again you're going to try 102 00:04:29,210 --> 00:04:26,820 to maintain that mindset and squash any 103 00:04:32,180 --> 00:04:29,220 of the opposition trying to change that 104 00:04:34,460 --> 00:04:32,190 particular mindset the fallacies of 105 00:04:36,650 --> 00:04:34,470 logic are universal that violates 106 00:04:38,750 --> 00:04:36,660 Universal fallacies of logic two of them 107 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:38,760 being like say the bandwagon effect you 108 00:04:42,020 --> 00:04:40,530 say something is true just because 109 00:04:43,580 --> 00:04:42,030 everybody in your discipline or 110 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:43,590 everybody in your circle of influence 111 00:04:49,310 --> 00:04:46,530 says it's true and in terms of authority 112 00:04:51,350 --> 00:04:49,320 if a medical doctor says something or if 113 00:04:53,060 --> 00:04:51,360 a professor says something or an 114 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:53,070 educator says something then that is 115 00:04:58,250 --> 00:04:55,440 true because that person that authority 116 00:05:00,560 --> 00:04:58,260 figure said it was true and it's held is 117 00:05:02,950 --> 00:05:00,570 true that's a violation of universal 118 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:02,960 that's the universal fallacy of logic 119 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:07,290 now we get in the legal morass that 120 00:05:13,159 --> 00:05:09,810 influences everything a will so position 121 00:05:16,220 --> 00:05:13,169 is more physicians are becoming more 122 00:05:18,500 --> 00:05:16,230 concerned about being sued rather than 123 00:05:20,990 --> 00:05:18,510 the practice the art and practice the 124 00:05:22,700 --> 00:05:21,000 art and craft of their practice and so 125 00:05:24,710 --> 00:05:22,710 they will prescribe they will over 126 00:05:26,810 --> 00:05:24,720 prescribe they'll do anything to remove 127 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:26,820 any hint of litigation and I'm not 128 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:28,530 saying every physician has it so I'm 129 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:30,570 just trying to get some principles 130 00:05:35,690 --> 00:05:33,210 established and so in public education 131 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:35,700 the curriculum is decided by 132 00:05:41,390 --> 00:05:38,490 governmental bodies that have their own 133 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:41,400 set of rules regulations and laws all 134 00:05:47,630 --> 00:05:44,370 that comes together to form a coherent 135 00:05:49,460 --> 00:05:47,640 mindset but that coherent mindset 136 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:49,470 typically goes unchallenged for a period 137 00:05:54,530 --> 00:05:52,050 of time its deferred to as its own 138 00:05:56,630 --> 00:05:54,540 authority it has its own life that tries 139 00:06:01,660 --> 00:05:56,640 to maintain itself and so upon 140 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:05,570 now the causes it's a natural this is 141 00:06:10,370 --> 00:06:07,800 the natural effect of psychological 142 00:06:12,530 --> 00:06:10,380 closure so for example if you take a 143 00:06:15,170 --> 00:06:12,540 paragraph out of your favorite book and 144 00:06:18,350 --> 00:06:15,180 you Olympic you white out one word and 145 00:06:19,930 --> 00:06:18,360 you read that odds are most people are 146 00:06:22,610 --> 00:06:19,940 going to fill in that blank space 147 00:06:25,280 --> 00:06:22,620 they're not going to see the blank spot 148 00:06:28,280 --> 00:06:25,290 there it's a natural property and it's a 149 00:06:31,790 --> 00:06:28,290 universal and what it does is it 150 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:31,800 constricts awareness survival membership 151 00:06:35,750 --> 00:06:33,570 and belonging I'm a personal fan of mild 152 00:06:38,090 --> 00:06:35,760 Maslow's hierarchy of needs refer to it 153 00:06:40,280 --> 00:06:38,100 constantly so in the deficit needs you 154 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:40,290 have things such as survival you need to 155 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:42,690 eat you need to find shelter there's a 156 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:44,970 sense of belongingness that's part of 157 00:06:48,860 --> 00:06:47,250 the deficit needs now it's not when you 158 00:06:50,990 --> 00:06:48,870 get into your growth needs it's not that 159 00:06:52,970 --> 00:06:51,000 you get rid of your deficit needs you 160 00:06:55,580 --> 00:06:52,980 need to continue to eat most people do 161 00:06:59,870 --> 00:06:55,590 anyway the ideas you can suspend that 162 00:07:02,540 --> 00:06:59,880 drive to fulfill those needs in favor of 163 00:07:04,490 --> 00:07:02,550 growth advanced learning and a 164 00:07:07,220 --> 00:07:04,500 completely new sense of the word of the 165 00:07:10,250 --> 00:07:07,230 world and what's really interesting is 166 00:07:12,980 --> 00:07:10,260 Maslow gets into an ontological state of 167 00:07:15,350 --> 00:07:12,990 consciousness defined as being there's 168 00:07:17,060 --> 00:07:15,360 many different terms for ontology here 169 00:07:22,670 --> 00:07:17,070 I'm going to approach it as a state of 170 00:07:25,370 --> 00:07:22,680 beingness which is inherently beyond the 171 00:07:28,130 --> 00:07:25,380 bureaucratic mind because it does not 172 00:07:32,860 --> 00:07:28,140 support any other mindset it supports 173 00:07:37,460 --> 00:07:35,840 bureaucratic mind hinders individuation 174 00:07:39,350 --> 00:07:37,470 which is this process of going through 175 00:07:42,260 --> 00:07:39,360 deficit the growth needs that Maslow 176 00:07:45,290 --> 00:07:42,270 outlines the interesting thing about the 177 00:07:47,090 --> 00:07:45,300 individuated person is that individuated 178 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:47,100 person is fully functional within 179 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:49,650 society they do not become an outcast 180 00:07:54,590 --> 00:07:52,050 you know they do not position themselves 181 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:54,600 above the crowd they are fully 182 00:07:59,600 --> 00:07:57,210 integrated but they have their own sense 183 00:08:01,640 --> 00:07:59,610 of where they are their own sense of 184 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:01,650 purpose of meaning their own direction 185 00:08:06,980 --> 00:08:04,530 in life and they figure out a way to 186 00:08:10,090 --> 00:08:06,990 make that of value to society at large 187 00:08:12,740 --> 00:08:10,100 so it's a really interesting dynamic 188 00:08:13,390 --> 00:08:12,750 another one person write our article 189 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:13,400 Arjun 190 00:08:18,070 --> 00:08:15,470 I read he makes the point we have simply 191 00:08:21,689 --> 00:08:18,080 become habituated to bureaucratic life 192 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:21,699 and that's the way it is and nobody 193 00:08:29,290 --> 00:08:25,130 overstatement challenges it and so we're 194 00:08:32,469 --> 00:08:29,300 caught in a vise now here's the 195 00:08:36,159 --> 00:08:32,479 suggestion and overly conditioned 196 00:08:39,550 --> 00:08:36,169 mindset produces undue stress and that 197 00:08:42,519 --> 00:08:39,560 constriction renders homeo dynamics out 198 00:08:45,070 --> 00:08:42,529 of whack so from a being perspective and 199 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:45,080 ontological perspective being is a 200 00:08:49,540 --> 00:08:47,330 psychological state of homie on Emma's 201 00:08:53,769 --> 00:08:49,550 homeo dynamics being another more 202 00:08:56,949 --> 00:08:53,779 descriptive word of homeostasis and so 203 00:08:59,530 --> 00:08:56,959 if the body is fully functioning it is 204 00:09:02,110 --> 00:08:59,540 in a state of being physiologic homeo 205 00:09:05,380 --> 00:09:02,120 dynamics correlates with psychological 206 00:09:08,680 --> 00:09:05,390 homeo dynamics so homie I don't dynamics 207 00:09:11,460 --> 00:09:08,690 defined is a natural state evidenced by 208 00:09:14,470 --> 00:09:11,470 health psychological and physiological 209 00:09:16,449 --> 00:09:14,480 it is a complex it's dynamic it has 210 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:16,459 multiple feedback systems an array of 211 00:09:22,180 --> 00:09:19,010 feedback systems that maintain that 212 00:09:24,910 --> 00:09:22,190 really intricate dance of balance it's a 213 00:09:27,940 --> 00:09:24,920 complexity based equilibrium so even 214 00:09:29,949 --> 00:09:27,950 though given its complex nature when 215 00:09:32,829 --> 00:09:29,959 you're talking about a complexity you're 216 00:09:35,230 --> 00:09:32,839 talking about different systems talking 217 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:35,240 and dancing among each others so that 218 00:09:40,329 --> 00:09:37,970 complex arrangement goes into a state of 219 00:09:42,970 --> 00:09:40,339 complexity where all these feedback 220 00:09:44,470 --> 00:09:42,980 systems the regulatory systems they 221 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:44,480 communicate to one another do they 222 00:09:50,199 --> 00:09:46,370 bounce off one another and the end 223 00:09:54,730 --> 00:09:50,209 result is physiologic equilibrium that's 224 00:09:56,440 --> 00:09:54,740 always never in a state of rest so now 225 00:09:58,269 --> 00:09:56,450 to tackle that let's talk a little bit 226 00:10:02,350 --> 00:09:58,279 about the epigenome epigenomic 227 00:10:04,570 --> 00:10:02,360 researchers who relatively new it deals 228 00:10:07,750 --> 00:10:04,580 with these pieces surrounding and 229 00:10:10,150 --> 00:10:07,760 influencing DNA the aspects of them are 230 00:10:13,150 --> 00:10:10,160 DNA methylation which is carbon groups 231 00:10:15,100 --> 00:10:13,160 attaching directly to DNA histone 232 00:10:17,800 --> 00:10:15,110 proteins and I'll give you a graphic of 233 00:10:19,260 --> 00:10:17,810 that in just a second chromatin which is 234 00:10:23,010 --> 00:10:19,270 like condensed has 235 00:10:25,470 --> 00:10:23,020 proteins and non-coding RNA non-coding 236 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:25,480 RNA is probably the least investigated 237 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:28,330 to date and so and it's I don't even 238 00:10:34,800 --> 00:10:29,710 want to go there because I'm going to 239 00:10:36,630 --> 00:10:34,810 say something wrong now each of these 240 00:10:40,830 --> 00:10:36,640 influences the others and here's a 241 00:10:43,020 --> 00:10:40,840 general view of it so you go from DNA 242 00:10:46,260 --> 00:10:43,030 I'll give you an image on methylation in 243 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:46,270 a second histones form and they get 244 00:10:50,010 --> 00:10:47,650 tighter and tighter and tighter until 245 00:10:51,660 --> 00:10:50,020 they form chromatin structures they get 246 00:10:54,030 --> 00:10:51,670 tighter and tighter and tighter it's a 247 00:10:56,550 --> 00:10:54,040 productive previously thought to be a 248 00:10:58,770 --> 00:10:56,560 protective influence of DNA to form the 249 00:11:00,300 --> 00:10:58,780 chromosomes again they're over here you 250 00:11:03,980 --> 00:11:00,310 go through the sequence of histone 251 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:03,990 proteins condensing from a chromatin and 252 00:11:09,870 --> 00:11:07,330 protects the chromosome that thinking 253 00:11:12,930 --> 00:11:09,880 and the idea that DNA is mechanistic 254 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:12,940 that is the structure of DNA the coding 255 00:11:16,620 --> 00:11:15,010 of DNA produces the proteins and 256 00:11:18,300 --> 00:11:16,630 produces everything about you that 257 00:11:21,270 --> 00:11:18,310 thinking is going out the window 258 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:21,280 quite rapidly the idea being that to 259 00:11:32,430 --> 00:11:25,210 SEPA genome Music's of the proteins 260 00:11:36,450 --> 00:11:32,440 there's eight different kinds of histone 261 00:11:38,970 --> 00:11:36,460 molecules they form a nucleus ohm this 262 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:38,980 is an image of the DNA wrapping in and 263 00:11:43,740 --> 00:11:41,650 around it it also has histone tails of 264 00:11:47,130 --> 00:11:43,750 which nobody knows too much about those 265 00:11:48,810 --> 00:11:47,140 yet they are made up of the same type of 266 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:48,820 protein but there are different sizes my 267 00:11:55,590 --> 00:11:50,410 conjecture is that they serve as 268 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:55,600 antennas antennae excuse me and so they 269 00:12:02,030 --> 00:11:57,250 form they get tighter and tighter and 270 00:12:04,560 --> 00:12:02,040 they form chromatin structure and the 271 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:04,570 chromatin has its own form of histone 272 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:06,880 methylation all these influences all 273 00:12:13,620 --> 00:12:10,930 driven by enzymes there's at an 274 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:13,630 embryonic level the methylation for 275 00:12:20,580 --> 00:12:18,010 example is completely stripped it's d 276 00:12:23,190 --> 00:12:20,590 methylated and then it's remap elated 277 00:12:25,590 --> 00:12:23,200 for cell differentiation a little bit 278 00:12:29,430 --> 00:12:25,600 later methylation is completely stripped 279 00:12:30,660 --> 00:12:29,440 again it's remember differentiation and 280 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:30,670 it's always at the CG 281 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:33,730 basse the interesting thing about it is 282 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:35,530 they know now DNA methylation is the 283 00:12:40,470 --> 00:12:37,330 best characterized part of the the 284 00:12:43,050 --> 00:12:40,480 epigenome today it's responsible for 285 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:43,060 cellular memory processes and it's 286 00:12:47,940 --> 00:12:46,330 heritable and so one of the interesting 287 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:47,950 things about it is that they've tracked 288 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:49,810 it down to the f5 generation now they 289 00:12:58,890 --> 00:12:51,610 know it's gone at least five generations 290 00:13:01,890 --> 00:12:58,900 now environmental toxins produce epi 291 00:13:03,900 --> 00:13:01,900 mutations and so this is an example of 292 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:03,910 an epi mutation down here it's just an 293 00:13:13,710 --> 00:13:07,930 irregular form on the pattern of DNA 294 00:13:16,260 --> 00:13:13,720 methylation island and that aberration 295 00:13:19,290 --> 00:13:16,270 influences genetic expression the 296 00:13:20,610 --> 00:13:19,300 expression of DNA so all of these work 297 00:13:23,490 --> 00:13:20,620 together and they form the entire 298 00:13:26,750 --> 00:13:23,500 epigenome forms a regulatory influence 299 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:26,760 of what the DNA will be expressed 300 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:31,210 without altering DNA structure and so 301 00:13:39,150 --> 00:13:34,870 it's turning everything on it's here and 302 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:39,160 research in this regard so it just turns 303 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:41,650 off the wrong genes turns on this and 304 00:13:48,060 --> 00:13:44,410 that it's attributed to cancer obesity 305 00:13:51,060 --> 00:13:48,070 for example a person can be morbidly 306 00:13:52,770 --> 00:13:51,070 obese diet and exercise won't do a darn 307 00:13:54,450 --> 00:13:52,780 thing and the reason that person knows 308 00:13:58,130 --> 00:13:54,460 beasts is because they have an aberrant 309 00:14:00,450 --> 00:13:58,140 methylation pattern plain and simple 310 00:14:03,660 --> 00:14:00,460 one researcher I talked to who 311 00:14:05,850 --> 00:14:03,670 attributes all diseases except we're not 312 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:05,860 except for injury related diseases and 313 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:08,050 infectious diseases attributes all other 314 00:14:15,390 --> 00:14:10,090 diseases to aberrant and methylation or 315 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:15,400 epigenomic aberrations now here in terms 316 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:18,610 of this talk the evidence indicates that 317 00:14:25,230 --> 00:14:22,210 psychosocial conditions can produce the 318 00:14:27,150 --> 00:14:25,240 stress that acts in the same way as an 319 00:14:29,190 --> 00:14:27,160 environmental toxin like an 320 00:14:31,950 --> 00:14:29,200 environmental poison exhaust fumes 321 00:14:33,900 --> 00:14:31,960 produce rapid changes in methylation 322 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:33,910 patterns and so we're not talking about 323 00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:35,530 the occasional fight we're talking about 324 00:14:41,140 --> 00:14:38,710 a person being in a stressful ongoing 325 00:14:48,910 --> 00:14:41,150 situation that could produce an 326 00:14:51,250 --> 00:14:48,920 mutation which will affect health now 327 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:51,260 let's shift gears and come at it from 328 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:52,970 slightly different angles using the same 329 00:14:57,010 --> 00:14:54,650 thing a mindset affecting health and 330 00:14:59,380 --> 00:14:57,020 we'll go into placebo response defined 331 00:15:01,390 --> 00:14:59,390 is a psychological component delivering 332 00:15:04,270 --> 00:15:01,400 a therapeutic effect beyond natural 333 00:15:08,530 --> 00:15:04,280 history and spontaneous regression it is 334 00:15:11,050 --> 00:15:08,540 a restoration of homeo dynamics it's the 335 00:15:13,660 --> 00:15:11,060 same dynamics pertain to nocebo response 336 00:15:17,230 --> 00:15:13,670 where all these some condition produces 337 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:17,240 a state of ill health or a state of 338 00:15:25,450 --> 00:15:21,290 disease recibo are no responses stem 339 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:25,460 from active psychosocial processes such 340 00:15:30,940 --> 00:15:28,730 as conditioning and expectation some 341 00:15:32,830 --> 00:15:30,950 form of learning and education goes into 342 00:15:35,290 --> 00:15:32,840 producing those states of expectancy of 343 00:15:37,570 --> 00:15:35,300 those states of conditioning and there 344 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:37,580 as well as being mediated by so 345 00:15:41,620 --> 00:15:39,170 psychosocial conditions they're 346 00:15:45,250 --> 00:15:41,630 modulated by states of learning and 347 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:45,260 education and so it's affects the 348 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:46,970 internal and external environments where 349 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:49,250 there's psychological conditions and 350 00:15:53,530 --> 00:15:51,050 there could be the plaques on the wall 351 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:53,540 which brings us back to Authority so if 352 00:15:57,460 --> 00:15:55,550 you're in a doctor's office and they're 353 00:15:59,260 --> 00:15:57,470 getting more adept on employing the 354 00:16:01,570 --> 00:15:59,270 placebo response as a mode of therapy 355 00:16:03,790 --> 00:16:01,580 now the plaques on the wall could very 356 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:03,800 well support and help that position 357 00:16:09,190 --> 00:16:06,650 bring his authority his or her authority 358 00:16:15,520 --> 00:16:09,200 to bear to Plews the seat up receiver 359 00:16:17,620 --> 00:16:15,530 response now they form strong social and 360 00:16:19,870 --> 00:16:17,630 individual stereotypes again that's a 361 00:16:20,860 --> 00:16:19,880 hallmark of how we're characterizing the 362 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:20,870 bureaucratic mind 363 00:16:25,210 --> 00:16:23,690 for example prozac is more effective in 364 00:16:27,490 --> 00:16:25,220 the United States than in Western Europe 365 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:27,500 and volume is better in France and 366 00:16:32,650 --> 00:16:29,330 Belgium in the US and here's where it 367 00:16:35,470 --> 00:16:32,660 gets fun blue pills are better than red 368 00:16:38,470 --> 00:16:35,480 pills for tranquilizers placebo type 369 00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:38,480 pills except for in Italian men who 370 00:16:42,610 --> 00:16:40,430 associate blue with the national soccer 371 00:16:47,140 --> 00:16:42,620 team so it kind of revs them up a little 372 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:47,150 bit now what's really interesting big 373 00:16:51,850 --> 00:16:49,490 farmers really got wind of this they're 374 00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:51,860 studying it quite hard and all of this 375 00:16:54,889 --> 00:16:52,800 goes in 376 00:16:57,410 --> 00:16:54,899 the geography of clinical trials 377 00:17:07,600 --> 00:16:57,420 selection to enhance the success rate of 378 00:17:11,809 --> 00:17:09,949 so mine meaning in the violent the 379 00:17:14,509 --> 00:17:11,819 pre-brew the placebo response has been 380 00:17:16,490 --> 00:17:14,519 turned to meaning response meaning is 381 00:17:18,919 --> 00:17:16,500 learned I tend to look at the placebo 382 00:17:22,279 --> 00:17:18,929 response as a learned response and 383 00:17:24,110 --> 00:17:22,289 meaning being part of that but if you 384 00:17:26,059 --> 00:17:24,120 remember that search your meaning it's 385 00:17:28,429 --> 00:17:26,069 not only part of the bureaucratic 386 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:28,439 mindset it's also part of Maslow's 387 00:17:34,580 --> 00:17:32,970 hierarchy so the placebo response has 388 00:17:37,389 --> 00:17:34,590 now been validated by science and 389 00:17:39,799 --> 00:17:37,399 mainstream literature what's happening 390 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:39,809 more people are becoming aware of it 391 00:17:43,669 --> 00:17:41,610 more people who begin educating to it 392 00:17:46,369 --> 00:17:43,679 enrolling that in a trial has an 393 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:46,379 automatic effect if you think if the 394 00:17:50,450 --> 00:17:48,330 trial subject thinks they are in the 395 00:17:54,980 --> 00:17:50,460 placebo group they are going to have a 396 00:17:56,690 --> 00:17:54,990 better response while taking placebo the 397 00:18:00,409 --> 00:17:56,700 placebo response and trials is 398 00:18:02,570 --> 00:18:00,419 increasing and what is really 399 00:18:06,019 --> 00:18:02,580 interesting is that even if you're being 400 00:18:07,299 --> 00:18:06,029 told you're given placebo it doesn't 401 00:18:09,769 --> 00:18:07,309 matter you're going to respond 402 00:18:12,350 --> 00:18:09,779 therapeutically to being told you're 403 00:18:15,350 --> 00:18:12,360 only being given placebo because people 404 00:18:16,820 --> 00:18:15,360 know of the power behind placebo now so 405 00:18:19,970 --> 00:18:16,830 we get into the problem of metrics that 406 00:18:22,549 --> 00:18:19,980 we talked about briefly it's like an 407 00:18:26,389 --> 00:18:22,559 it's a frontier field in terms of Bill 408 00:18:29,090 --> 00:18:26,399 bangtan's project the idea it might 409 00:18:30,950 --> 00:18:29,100 produce an avenue of inquiry examine a 410 00:18:33,350 --> 00:18:30,960 psychological posture his for the 411 00:18:35,330 --> 00:18:33,360 healers posture in relation to in turn 412 00:18:38,460 --> 00:18:35,340 intentionality and how these parlay into 413 00:18:41,070 --> 00:18:38,470 healing so the our Institute is then 414 00:18:42,899 --> 00:18:41,080 our b-tree labs with John McMichael 415 00:18:45,810 --> 00:18:42,909 addressed yesterday is approaching the 416 00:18:47,970 --> 00:18:45,820 problem of the ax bioenergy and so 417 00:18:49,799 --> 00:18:47,980 personally I know this is we're all in 418 00:18:52,289 --> 00:18:49,809 this one is I think Bill enters a 419 00:18:54,990 --> 00:18:52,299 meditative state we've already dealt 420 00:18:58,470 --> 00:18:55,000 with that he emits depending upon how 421 00:19:00,390 --> 00:18:58,480 you model it he emits a homeo dynamic 422 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:00,400 signal that produces the healing court 423 00:19:05,279 --> 00:19:02,860 his consciousness and a psychological 424 00:19:08,970 --> 00:19:05,289 homeo dynamic state is read by the 425 00:19:11,279 --> 00:19:08,980 Healey self-selects what is required out 426 00:19:13,710 --> 00:19:11,289 of that broadband signal and the healing 427 00:19:15,899 --> 00:19:13,720 occurs so that brings us into modeling 428 00:19:17,730 --> 00:19:15,909 which is an effect of the bureaucratic 429 00:19:20,730 --> 00:19:17,740 mind and produces the bureaucratic money 430 00:19:23,610 --> 00:19:20,740 and given that I have 30 seconds left 431 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:23,620 we'll end it there so it ends I'd like 432 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:24,690 to contribute 433 00:19:32,510 --> 00:19:30,170 [Applause] 434 00:19:34,870 --> 00:19:32,520 thank you ken you ended it definitely 435 00:19:39,380 --> 00:19:34,880 early so we'll bring some people up 436 00:19:41,810 --> 00:19:39,390 Julie really really interesting thank 437 00:19:43,750 --> 00:19:41,820 you did you see my presentation pardon 438 00:19:46,370 --> 00:19:43,760 me did you see my presentation and I 439 00:19:48,790 --> 00:19:46,380 enjoyed it okay because I have a 440 00:19:51,100 --> 00:19:48,800 question relates in the mainstream 441 00:19:53,930 --> 00:19:51,110 literature this connection between 442 00:19:57,830 --> 00:19:53,940 childhood trauma and physical disease 443 00:20:01,520 --> 00:19:57,840 they their proposed mechanism is a 444 00:20:03,350 --> 00:20:01,530 trauma creates risky behaviors so the 445 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:03,360 people become alcoholic and they you 446 00:20:08,210 --> 00:20:05,730 know they take risks do you think I 447 00:20:10,330 --> 00:20:08,220 don't think that it at all do you think 448 00:20:13,250 --> 00:20:10,340 that it could be this epigenetic 449 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:13,260 methylation that's that's turning trauma 450 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:15,890 into disease based on what I've read I 451 00:20:23,030 --> 00:20:20,610 would say why not yeah if you have it's 452 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:23,040 rooted in a physiology now and it brings 453 00:20:27,230 --> 00:20:25,290 in things such as you addressed and it's 454 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:27,240 relating that the things such as obesity 455 00:20:31,070 --> 00:20:29,580 such as cancer that who heretofore 456 00:20:33,380 --> 00:20:31,080 banned thought have occurred from all 457 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:33,390 these different variations and are going 458 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:36,330 because a person inherited an epi 459 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:40,380 mutation that inheritance produced the 460 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:42,570 disease no matter the structure of their 461 00:20:47,590 --> 00:20:44,730 actual DNA so I think it's really 462 00:20:50,510 --> 00:20:47,600 fascinating I would say yeah yeah 463 00:20:52,130 --> 00:20:50,520 because it's the psychological event and 464 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:52,140 it's creating this physical thing so 465 00:20:56,510 --> 00:20:54,480 there has to be something physical and I 466 00:20:59,510 --> 00:20:56,520 never I didn't have an idea but I think 467 00:21:02,120 --> 00:20:59,520 it might indeed be that methylation so 468 00:21:06,980 --> 00:21:02,130 thank you so much you you made my link 469 00:21:09,500 --> 00:21:06,990 in my hypothesis go for it yes sir yes 470 00:21:11,210 --> 00:21:09,510 I'm an organizational sociologist 471 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:11,220 and basically have spent a fair amount 472 00:21:15,830 --> 00:21:13,770 of my adult life concentrating on the 473 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:15,840 organizational climate and I 474 00:21:19,730 --> 00:21:18,330 distinguished three the one you're 475 00:21:22,430 --> 00:21:19,740 mostly talking about it's what I call a 476 00:21:24,530 --> 00:21:22,440 pathological climate it's typically 477 00:21:27,590 --> 00:21:24,540 characterized by leaders whose number 478 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:27,600 one interest is feathering their own 479 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:32,010 nest a pathological climate is often 480 00:21:36,130 --> 00:21:34,490 what people refer to as a toxic climate 481 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:36,140 that's a wonderful book on this is 482 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:41,090 called the no policy it's really 483 00:21:46,630 --> 00:21:42,920 interesting the second one the 484 00:21:48,340 --> 00:21:46,640 bureaucratic climate has effects that 485 00:21:50,020 --> 00:21:48,350 are intermediate between that and the 486 00:21:54,310 --> 00:21:50,030 other one what I call a generative 487 00:21:57,940 --> 00:21:54,320 climate so I will give you a paper that 488 00:21:59,020 --> 00:21:57,950 I wrote I have some papers on this but 489 00:22:01,060 --> 00:21:59,030 the interesting thing is that 490 00:22:02,110 --> 00:22:01,070 pathological climates typically produce 491 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:02,120 physical illness 492 00:22:08,110 --> 00:22:05,090 I mean people literally get sick on the 493 00:22:10,780 --> 00:22:08,120 way to work that's how you know you have 494 00:22:12,100 --> 00:22:10,790 a toxic environment yeah it was one of 495 00:22:14,830 --> 00:22:12,110 my students who told me that his father 496 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:14,840 was an auto worker basically had 497 00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,490 terrible problems just driving to work 498 00:22:19,419 --> 00:22:18,080 because he was so afraid of what was 499 00:22:21,790 --> 00:22:19,429 going to happen during the day a 500 00:22:23,710 --> 00:22:21,800 generative climate tends to produce the 501 00:22:25,270 --> 00:22:23,720 opposite response people are excited 502 00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:25,280 about the work they do they're 503 00:22:29,290 --> 00:22:27,110 interested they're energized and so 504 00:22:30,490 --> 00:22:29,300 forth it's not terribly surprising that 505 00:22:32,650 --> 00:22:30,500 many of the high performance 506 00:22:35,620 --> 00:22:32,660 organizations have a generative climate 507 00:22:37,510 --> 00:22:35,630 and I did a big study of the China Lake 508 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:37,520 naval weapons center which interesting 509 00:22:41,530 --> 00:22:39,410 enough had extraordinary generative 510 00:22:43,180 --> 00:22:41,540 climate so if you're interested in this 511 00:22:44,919 --> 00:22:43,190 I'll give you a paper but anybody else 512 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:44,929 is instan I've got charts and things 513 00:22:48,790 --> 00:22:47,210 like that ok I'm very interested thank 514 00:22:50,860 --> 00:22:48,800 you for the paper and be thank you for 515 00:22:53,590 --> 00:22:50,870 presenting the flipside to the ill 516 00:22:55,270 --> 00:22:53,600 health partner yeah well but I see that 517 00:22:57,100 --> 00:22:55,280 that the thing is did you go from 518 00:22:59,590 --> 00:22:57,110 pathological to generative there's a 519 00:23:07,420 --> 00:22:59,600 huge range of responses that are all 520 00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:12,250 oh yes so I've to two comments one I'd 521 00:23:17,350 --> 00:23:14,720 like to hear a little bit more about the 522 00:23:21,580 --> 00:23:17,360 environmental toxins in the in the DNA 523 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:21,590 and secondly even I found an old Journal 524 00:23:25,510 --> 00:23:23,210 article talking about from a French 525 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:25,520 journal about 200 years ago talked about 526 00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:28,490 legal medicine and 50 years ago a Cuban 527 00:23:32,590 --> 00:23:29,600 was saying well when you get to two 528 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:32,600 together disaster results and so 529 00:23:36,550 --> 00:23:34,010 somebody preceded you on that one 530 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:36,560 I appreciate that in terms of the 531 00:23:38,700 --> 00:23:37,970 environmental toxins that's very 532 00:23:41,230 --> 00:23:38,710 interesting 533 00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:41,240 BPA's the chemicals that go into making 534 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:44,480 all kinds of plastic leech they Lita's 535 00:23:49,950 --> 00:23:46,610 into the water so if you buy a bottle of 536 00:23:52,870 --> 00:23:49,960 water you're getting BPA's they are 537 00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:52,880 firmly established to producing 538 00:23:59,910 --> 00:23:55,640 epimutations they have the research 539 00:24:02,350 --> 00:23:59,920 relating BPA's to cancer is extensive 540 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:02,360 there has been studies that show by 541 00:24:09,250 --> 00:24:05,210 driving in heavily exhaust areas on the 542 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:09,260 road within seven days your methylation 543 00:24:17,740 --> 00:24:10,970 patterns will change to an aberrant 544 00:24:20,290 --> 00:24:17,750 profile the there's an assortment of 545 00:24:22,750 --> 00:24:20,300 toxins their environment fuel so if you 546 00:24:24,970 --> 00:24:22,760 ran an airport you're exposing yourself 547 00:24:27,550 --> 00:24:24,980 that is known and documented to produce 548 00:24:29,830 --> 00:24:27,560 a few mutations so it is kind of a 549 00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:29,840 horrible thing and that goes hand in 550 00:24:38,170 --> 00:24:32,180 hand with global warming which again 551 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:38,180 doesn't occur the and so the the remedy 552 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,210 to that one remedy for the psychological 553 00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:43,520 state they all work together as was 554 00:24:48,010 --> 00:24:46,100 pointed out is meditation because 555 00:24:50,530 --> 00:24:48,020 meditation goes into its Addie 556 00:24:52,690 --> 00:24:50,540 automatisation response which by its 557 00:24:57,420 --> 00:24:52,700 very nature interdict the bureaucratic 558 00:25:00,820 --> 00:24:57,430 mind kind of influence eat green leafy 559 00:25:02,590 --> 00:25:00,830 vegetables that's the single best thing 560 00:25:05,830 --> 00:25:02,600 you can do to help establish good DNA 561 00:25:07,390 --> 00:25:05,840 methylation patterns and the other thing 562 00:25:08,910 --> 00:25:07,400 is work to have things such as 563 00:25:12,690 --> 00:25:08,920 environmental pollution 564 00:25:15,930 --> 00:25:12,700 because it's it is clearly an adverse 565 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:15,940 physiologic event of those events thank